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Remember when it was a big deal...?
03-27-2006, 08:41 AM
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Remember when it was a big deal...?
When you used to want to be referred to as your job title, with "senior" or "chief" or "lead" stuck in front of it? How that for some reason made a difference? Sometimes there was even a promotion to a "senior" whatever you were, and that was a BIG deal...
I was just watching some CNBC (hey, ya gotta get your humor somewhere) and was noticing that everyone is a "senior <something or other>", which reminds me of the Daily Shows routine of making everyone a 'senior' something.
I was just thinking, if I went back to work (ACK!), I couldnt care less if I was a senior anything. Business cards could just say "Wagemonkey".
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03-27-2006, 08:46 AM
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Re: Remember when it was a big deal...?
Thanks so much for your update.
Sincerely,
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03-27-2006, 08:50 AM
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Re: Remember when it was a big deal...?
I guess that it is better than being an "advanced senior" or is that a curmudgeon.
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03-27-2006, 09:07 AM
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Re: Remember when it was a big deal...?
sorry, never fell for it. never bowed to that ego trip. not at work or in real life either. didn't matter if it was the so-called(-by-others) "president" of the company. it's first name only. i call my gp, allergist & dds by their first names. loved the initial reaction. i tried to call my mom by her first name when i was a kid. but she put me back into place by calling me sonny whenever i did. she's been mom ever since.
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03-27-2006, 09:13 AM
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Re: Remember when it was a big deal...?
A senior never remembers the difference in rank, and a junior never forgets it.
It got old real fast.
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03-27-2006, 09:23 AM
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Re: Remember when it was a big deal...?
The only reason I wanted to be a senior tech was for the raise. Call me whatever you want; just pay me more.
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03-27-2006, 09:27 AM
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Re: Remember when it was a big deal...?
When I became president of our firm, a couple staff members gave me a crown and a magic wand. I kinda liked that. Still try to use the magic wand, but it doesn't seem to work. 
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03-27-2006, 09:29 AM
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Re: Remember when it was a big deal...?
As long as they didnt take you to the throne...
Regarding that magic wand, I was wondering why my car kept levitating in the driveway. Cut it out.
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Be fearful when others are greedy, and greedy when others are fearful. Just another form of "buy low, sell high" for those who have trouble with things. This rule is not universal. Do not buy a 1973 Pinto because everyone else is afraid of it.
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03-27-2006, 09:33 AM
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Re: Remember when it was a big deal...?
In 1991, then Hughes Corp was recruiting me and I turned the job down because I wanted to be called; "Senior Scientist". *The next step up was Chief Scientist and there was only one of them per division.
Money was great but I wanted "Senior".
Later my own company changed all of us to Project Engineer and you got Level 69 or some such. *BUMMER>
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03-27-2006, 09:34 AM
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Martha,
your posts are magic, so maybe it just works in mysterious ways. 
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03-27-2006, 10:01 AM
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Thats done it.
Hey OAP, keep your magic wand away from the lady. She has a home vasectomy kit.
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Be fearful when others are greedy, and greedy when others are fearful. Just another form of "buy low, sell high" for those who have trouble with things. This rule is not universal. Do not buy a 1973 Pinto because everyone else is afraid of it.
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03-27-2006, 11:15 AM
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My official title is "Engineering Intern". Real spiffy. The title unquestionably inspires tons of confidence in clients when I email them and my signature line proudly announces that I'm just an intern... Maybe one day if I work really hard I'll become a Chief Engineering Intern or Senior Engineering Intern. I wonder if those new titles will come with a raise?
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03-27-2006, 11:36 AM
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the best most could do in my old company was become a this or that sort of specialist at this or that level. didn't matter much. salary & benefits didn't go as much by junior/senior, as by seniority. so you might think you're my boss, but i'm paid better, i work less, and i've got two weeks more vacation time than you. you'd like this done when?
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03-27-2006, 11:49 AM
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My wife is a Senior Operations Analyst at megacorp investment bank. The only thing "senior" about her position is that is pays $6000/yr more than the regular operations analysts. Of course, this is the kind of firm where a couple of her coworkers are Assistant Vice Presidents :  . I'm guessing somewhere around 15% of the company consists of Assistant Vice Presidents. I believe "Assistant Vice President" means "you're salaried now, we don't pay you for overtime any longer, bitch, but your ass still belongs to us 24/7".
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03-27-2006, 12:06 PM
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03-27-2006, 12:07 PM
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i could have gotten another $6k if i was willing to give up sandbox cottage, my home in south florida, which was appreciating at about 30% a day (it seemed) and then move so they could take atlanta city taxes out of that extra $6k & out of my then current salary. for a while there seemed like the house was making more than i was. so i figured i should stay. i have renamed it senior sandbox cottage.
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03-27-2006, 02:26 PM
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Re: Remember when it was a big deal...?
I was on the phone today with a woman who let me know her title was "Finance Director", and also that if I couldn't get up with her, I could speak with so and so who is the Deputy Finance Director! Hard not to laugh!  :
Who thinks these things up? I wonder if the Deputy carries a gun (with a bullet in her top pocket like Barney Fife?!) ........
Have a good day ......
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03-27-2006, 02:31 PM
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Oh, forgot to add this.........
Back when I worked for "other" people (self-employed for 20 plus years now) there was a business owner I worked with who would sign his IRS forms, etc. with the title of "King" --- I always liked that and have given the moniker to my DH at times! Sometimes we sit around and think up job titles - it's pretty funny since we do everything - janitors to CEO to whatever comes up next.
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03-27-2006, 02:55 PM
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Through Rotary I've meet some guys from Merrill Lynch and Morgan Stanley... they are ALL Vice Presidents! I think that title must be the bottom rung of the F. A. ladder.
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03-27-2006, 04:43 PM
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Re: Remember when it was a big deal...?
Yep, everyone in a bank or financial institution is a vice president.
I was pretty impressed with my cold calling skills in my first sales job when I called on my first bank. Hit a VP right off the bat and got him to agree to see me. That lasted until I called my boss and told him I'd hooked a VP so maybe I should bring him (aka "my dad") with me on the call. He said "when you get to your third guy with the word "Chief" in front of his title, call me again".
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